the head honcho moves that agenda forward

if the party is knowledgeable, effective and prodcutive then the head guy did his job

if the party is ineffective, its members are not knowledgable or it does not succeed with its agenda – then the leader is not a good leader – he is not doing his job properly

party as used above did not mean political party but rather participant.

we (the liberty movement- in whatever form) need helpful participants not those with an agenda.

It is the same in any organization, volutary or not. It is the same in the BLP. As it should be.

Divergent paths executed at the same time will only lead to problems. If the party is to succeed it MUST speak with one voice. It MUST put on a single face and work toward single goals on the SAME path by ALL members involved.

Any organization, regardless of how big or small, will not survive in a constant state of disarray. An enemy from the outside simply needs to cause internal problems in order to make his enemy ineffective. This is an old trick. In fact many government agencies teach their people that if you cannot take over an organization then make it ineffective.

The republicans and the democrats keep winning every year because we cause our own problems. They don’t need to infiltrate or cause any confusion in our organizations because we do it to ourselves. We make their job easy by making our own selves unproductive.

This is not due to bad people, only bad leadership. If the head honcho of an organization doesn’t keep his people on track – it is his fault that the organization falls apart. Ultimately, everything that happens in an organization is the responsibility of the head guy. That’s why you have CEO’s that get fired all the time. Did you expect it to be different in the Libertarian Party? It shouldn’t be.

” The fight for Liberty does NOT have to come from the Libertarian Party. It can be from other sources and no one says it has to be voluntary.”

the above statements presuppose that we were on course and lost our way and that there is more than one way to spread liberty both from within and outside our party structure – using voluntary and/or professional assistance. all those assertions appear to be correct.

it is apparently painful (not only for you, but to me and others) to see valiant efforts — heroic even– not only either not work out or worse be rejected,denigrated, or foiled particularly — when personal cost is high and when light at the end of the tunnel was visible.

it is hoped that a way to promote liberty using the talents, systems and capable people in our movement is successfully developed for favorable outcomes for all who truly want liberty.

i feel that your skills as a moderator and as a leader have been most helpful and your continuation is desirable. the method and wether to work in party are valid questions.

the difficulty currently is between personalities as is common in organizations. if a key player is thwarted by actions that are malicious in nature redress becomes an issue.

if we have all involved players in league with each other for good and proper purposes we should have continued success in a manner that works out.

obstructionism and falsehoods, actions based on erroneous belief or evil intent get in the way.

a party that is antagonistic toward other members, posters, key players etc is not likely to yield a net benefit. a party that is productive, experienced, knowledgeable and capable is a different matter.

I am sitting here over the course of time watching the party go nowhere. I finally figure out what needs to make the party successful. As I become involved I had a plan that would work. The plan was shared, made public, implemented, parts created and results starting to come in. We are at the beginning of the success wheel turning.

Suddenly, I am seeing the systematic destruction and dismantling of the party. As the cogs fall off the wheels one at a time, I have to ask myself, what did I get myself into? I am trying to keep it together; I am trying to fulfill my commitment of turning the organization around. At what cost to me?

Loosing my family backing when I got into this was hard enough. I knew that would happen and stood my ground because I knew it was the right thing to do. Loosing some friends in the process was expected as well. I thought the gaining of new friends with like minds would be a sufficient replacement.

Seeing everything I stand for and the organization that I was building for that stance, all fall apart in front of my eyes, is beyond me. I am not sure what to do or how do to it. Steve Coffey always looks for the win/win solution in any situation. Perhaps the correct win/win solution is to just walk away from it all.

I chose the Libertarian Party because it was the only political one that made sense when I found out that other people think like me. I presumed that other who thought like me would be like me; I guess that presumption is invalid.

The fight for Liberty does NOT have to come from the Libertarian Party. It can be from other sources and no one says it has to be voluntary. One could get paid for the work he wishes to do. A fair price for the services provided is not without reason.

“Don’t turn away potential activists over drama.”

both of the above quotes represent an ideal that i believe worthy. to achieve them you want to work with quality people that have goals of a substantially same or similar purpose. if our goal is liberty and working toward the achievement of that via any and all means possible– education, outreach,building a cadre of libertarians enabling electoral success, etc. than we need people that want those things primarily more so than those who are about internal power.

getting things done is desirable –if only– it is the right things — not the wrong ones– getting done.

a reading of howard roark’s speech is a good place for someone to understand right and wrong within our organizational context. specifically re the claims of need vs the individual that (made) or makes it happen vs the committee -process-. let the person(s) doing what is necessary do it. sean has brought great — under appreciated effort and talent to this group. results improve when hindrances — that is the deliberate blocking of productive(rather than bureaucratic rule making and nit picking) activity is allowed to go forward.

You are exactly right. And you should be wary.

The thing is, none of this had to happen. It is the result of the work and responsibility of one man, and one man only, and he was offered a way to get out of it with honor. He chose not to.

If the BLP and its members wish to sanction such action, that is their choice. I choose not to.

As far as I am concerned there was no way I could work with such corrupt individuals.

I only wish I had learned my lesson sooner.

I understand wanting change (real change!) but the BLP no longer represents that. They have to do some house-cleaning first. Whether or not they are willing to do that is a different story.

However, good luck in whatever way you choose.

And if you questions (about this or anything else) please let me know.

Thanks.

sean